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« Reply #105 on: May 25, 2012, 11:44:21 PM »

Thanks to all who contributed to this project.

At this time we have 22546 collected rounds.

Big analyze procedure started to I will keep you informed once I will have some news.
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« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2012, 12:31:51 AM »

We all await eager for good results.
Congratulations for the work.

We hope to receive good news after the tests.

Success to us all.

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« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2012, 12:14:15 PM »

 Cool

Lets hope this will conclude the pot of gold we are looking for.  Wink
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« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2012, 11:26:05 PM »

I'm waiting to your results.... Wink
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« Reply #109 on: May 30, 2012, 11:51:49 AM »

Had another bad day on the RNG (see below)
and its now come down to this.  Sad
Its how I feel sometimes.

Admin? How are the results of Live Ballistics.
Anything to report?

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Live Roulette Analyzer Project: Stage 2: To be continued now.
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« Reply #110 on: May 30, 2012, 02:03:11 PM »

Any system or method that uses a progression, will always fail to beat roulette, especially against RNG.

Flat-betting on the inside numbers provides the best opportunity for winning, but you have to determine the universal cold number "sweet spot" after X number of spins, then bet on a qualifying group of numbers.

The universal sweet spot for most live casinos is between 34 - 37 spins. For example, the "sweet spot" for Dublinbet is 34 spins.

Interestingly, the "sweet spot" for BetVoyager is also 34.

Dishonest RNGs have "sweet spots" that are not consistent and jump all over the place.

Most live casinos have consistent "sweet spots" even when there are different dealers.

Generally speaking: playing against RNGs requires a good flat-betting system as well as playing for short periods of time and on random separate days.
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« Reply #111 on: May 30, 2012, 02:17:52 PM »

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Had another bad day on the RNG (see below)
and its now come down to this.  
Its how I feel sometimes.

SCUDGER
WHAT RECESSION Huh? as you say

So many scripts ...
So many ideas ...
So many robots ...
So many people ...
So many computers ...

and just continue to give money to the casinos.

The question is:

How to beat a system that gives you $ 36 and $ 37 llhe strip?

The result will always be - $ 1.

And if we use martingale always resets the result: LOST ALL MY BANKING NEW! OH MY GOD NO MORE ... AGUENDO

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Any system or method that uses a progression, will always fail to beat roulette, especially against RNG.

Flat-betting on the inside numbers provides the best opportunity for winning, but you have to determine the universal cold number "sweet spot" after X number of spins, then bet on a qualifying group of numbers.

The universal sweet spot for most live casinos is between 34 - 37 spins. For example, the "sweet spot" for Dublinbet is 34 spins.

Interestingly, the "sweet spot" for BetVoyager is also 34.

VADDI
I agree, martingale leads only to lose our entire bankroll.

You are using this technique to wait 34 spins and bet on a group of numbers?

How do you choose these numbers to bet?

Bet all the same value?

You're making this way?

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« Reply #112 on: May 30, 2012, 05:44:33 PM »

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Had another bad day on the RNG (see below)
and its now come down to this.  
Its how I feel sometimes.

SCUDGER
WHAT RECESSION Huh? as you say

So many scripts ...
So many ideas ...
So many robots ...
So many people ...
So many computers ...

and just continue to give money to the casinos.

The question is:

How to beat a system that gives you $ 36 and $ 37 llhe strip?

The result will always be - $ 1.

And if we use martingale always resets the result: LOST ALL MY BANKING NEW! OH MY GOD NO MORE ... AGUENDO

 Undecided


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Any system or method that uses a progression, will always fail to beat roulette, especially against RNG.

Flat-betting on the inside numbers provides the best opportunity for winning, but you have to determine the universal cold number "sweet spot" after X number of spins, then bet on a qualifying group of numbers.

The universal sweet spot for most live casinos is between 34 - 37 spins. For example, the "sweet spot" for Dublinbet is 34 spins.

Interestingly, the "sweet spot" for BetVoyager is also 34.

VADDI
I agree, martingale leads only to lose our entire bankroll.

You are using this technique to wait 34 spins and bet on a group of numbers?

How do you choose these numbers to bet?

Bet all the same value?

You're making this way?

 Shocked

When playing roulette, we must think about accuracy.

If a system / method is developed and it can only have a chance of winning by using a progression, then you can safely draw the conclusion that there is something seriously wrong with that system / method.

Here's a thought:

If you spin the roulette wheel say 34 times, and there are ...

13 numbers, or
14 numbers, or
15 numbers, or
16 numbers ...

that haven't hit, what are the stats that a number will hit at ...

spin 35, or
spin 36, or
spin 37 ?

Maybe 61% of the time?

This method works for me and I'm always experimenting to improve it.

The best parameters for me, so far, are ...

- See if the casino qualifies for the 34-spins "sweet spot"
  because the sweet spot works in partnership with the
  13-, 14-, 15-, 16-number combinations so that you can
  generate potential profits of ...
 
  $36 - $13 = $23
  $36 - $14 = $22
  $36 - $15 = $21
  $36 - $16 = $20

- qualifying group of non-hit numbers: 13 numbers,
  or 14 numbers, or 15 numbers, or 16 numbers ...

- Bet 1 unit on each unhit number in each group.
  Example $1 bets: $13, $14, $15, $16

- playing in batches of 20 minutes for each session
  which works out to be about 37 spins at live casino

- Maximum multi-batch session: 1hr (20+20+20)

- Exit casino when in profit, then if you so wish,
   play other sessions later in the day

No system / method is perfect, but I haven't seen a
better one after reading through many forums over
the years.

The truth is that, even if you develop a system that
consistently wins in only short bursts of play,
then you have a winner because your system / method
is based on the concept of accuracy. All you need to
do is play at many casinos for short periods of time.
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« Reply #113 on: May 30, 2012, 06:18:38 PM »

I'v tried this system backwards and slightly different.

I would bet on the number that just came up. then also on the next and so on. Using progression on live roulette.

And you are right. The progression killed me after a very good run.


What do you do when you lost? take loss and try next time?
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« Reply #114 on: May 30, 2012, 06:42:43 PM »

I've also tested this system, It is called NINJA.
There is a soft on the Internet with this system. SPINPROFIT NINJA.
Previously this soft did the same thing.
http://spin4profit.com/ninja-tutorials/

Old videos show exactly this move.
Now it seems that the system change

Is surely suicide.

I created another legal system upon this.
From behind forward.

I call it the SUPER NINJA.

Is to bet on all numbers.
With each spin, and clears a number Contina betting on others.
Clears the number that came back and continues to bet on the other.

If you then repeat the number should be increased a chip on each number and continue to invest until the profit and resets al.

If you win the first 4 rounds then resets.

It is amazing how we always end up winning even if the number repeating several times.

However there comes a time that does not help, you lose everything.

But the system is very legality.
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« Reply #115 on: May 30, 2012, 06:50:25 PM »

All this is just gambling  Angry

I`m going to wait for the results of Live Ballistics Project.
I hope Admin has some good news for us.

Sorry if I sound negative.
But....... Grin
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« Reply #116 on: May 30, 2012, 06:56:16 PM »

Scudger,

No problem, we understand your feeling.  Cheesy

I also believe that the ballistic live must be the way.

Haaaa ... I would like to be able to create my robot Ballistic ...

Is that in 10 years of study I can not?  Grin
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« Reply #117 on: May 30, 2012, 07:17:18 PM »

I'v tried this system backwards and slightly different.

I would bet on the number that just came up. then also on the next and so on. Using progression on live roulette.

And you are right. The progression killed me after a very good run.


What do you do when you lost? take loss and try next time?

With the method, you always bet on 13, 14, 15, or 16 numbers.

I previously tested 14, 15, 16, and 17 numbers, but then had an insight that led me to test the above, which have improved the results.

I've never used progression with the method, only flat-betting while keeping sessions short or exiting after first profits, then moving to a different casino.

If I lose on the first bet, I bet a second time using the same numbers. If I lose the second time, I wait for another 13-, 14-, 15-, or 16-number signal and start the process again.

Currently, I'm also testing "perfect qualification", which means only betting once using a perpetual approach, which constantly maintains tracking of exactly 34 spins.
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« Reply #118 on: May 30, 2012, 07:46:31 PM »

I've also tested this system, It is called NINJA.
There is a soft on the Internet with this system. SPINPROFIT NINJA.
Previously this soft did the same thing.
http://spin4profit.com/ninja-tutorials/

Old videos show exactly this move.
Now it seems that the system change

Is surely suicide.

I created another legal system upon this.
From behind forward.

I call it the SUPER NINJA.

Is to bet on all numbers.
With each spin, and clears a number Contina betting on others.
Clears the number that came back and continues to bet on the other.

If you then repeat the number should be increased a chip on each number and continue to invest until the profit and resets al.

If you win the first 4 rounds then resets.

It is amazing how we always end up winning even if the number repeating several times.

However there comes a time that does not help, you lose everything.

But the system is very legality.


ombrerico,

The video at Spin4Profit is a typical example of poor roulette thinking.

If a number hasn't come up in four or seven spins, is that a cool number? Not necessarily. It's just an attempt to try and classify roulette events.

It's impossible to precisely pin down what will happen on the roulette table and that's why it's much better to make broad observations in percentage terms.

So, for example, based on my own 61% hit stats, if there are 13, 14, 15, 16 numbers that don't hit in 34 spins, that's a signal that I have a good chance of making some quick money. So, I hit and run when the opportunity comes.
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« Reply #119 on: May 30, 2012, 08:38:16 PM »

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So, for example, based on my own 61% hit stats, if there are 13, 14, 15, 16 numbers that don't hit in 34 spins, that's a signal that I have a good chance of making some quick money. So, I hit and run when the opportunity comes.

Yes I created the Harvest Numbers to do exactly these bets.

Vaddi

Let me understand your move:

You hold 34 rounds to start betting?

You bet on all numbers that come out?

You have achieved a profit as well?
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