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« on: February 17, 2012, 01:58:51 PM »

These months I was involved in a very interesting project related to Live Roulette Ballistic.

Now I need 30 players which will help me to test what was been developed.

In case of project success all members who will be involved in this project will be involved also in game process.

For the moment I can't tell you more about this project.


All I can say is that no contribution is required and all I need from you are next things:  
1. Good Internet Speed starting from 4 Mb
2. Computer Memory from 2 GB or bigger
3. Processor from 2 GHZ
4. Your computer should run one of our software up to 8 hours per day during 10-15 days (you can run this task overnight)
5. Real money casino account with at least 50$ (it will not be used to play or at least the balance will be kept as initial)


The testing phase of this project should start in 1-2 days.

All involved members will take part in this project on one of our private rooms.

All who are interested in this project please contact me on: support@money-maker-machine.com

Note: Live Roulette Ballistic Project is equivalent to RNG Disassembler and finally represent the same thing and the single difference is that it is for Live Roulette.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 02:16:35 PM »

I suggest other members to invest in such project instead crappy scripts made by idiots....

Visuall Ballistic if done correctly leads to big $$$
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 03:13:20 PM »

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I suggest other members to invest in such project instead crappy scripts made by idiots....

Scripting is the most advanced way to automate any roulette strategy.

The second question is how them are used.

If for free sharing then this is good if for frauds then this is bad.

All here is coding or scripting.

Sure we don't welcome frauds and hope to see all our members happy.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 03:13:46 PM »

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I suggest other members to invest in such project instead crappy scripts made by idiots....

I don't need $$$ contribution for the moment.

Look only for something like testers or better to say players which will help me to test our idea related to Live Roulette Ballistic.

I already posted what I need.

We plan to do a big analyze this is why I look for up to 30 members.

10 000 real money Live Roulette rounds will be analyzed.

In this way we will learn how mathematically work Live Roulette.

So with this data we will build a virtual live roulette table on our computer which should work like the Playtech Live Roulette table.

At this stage this in only an idea we want to test and we look for people ready to be involved and help us.
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 05:34:25 PM »

I want to participate.
Let me clarify what I believe about live roulette.
I believe that the results are identical to a roulette RNG.
I believe the numbers they act according to a universal law of distribution.

I'm in, let us try and see if we discover something new.

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 07:06:53 PM »

I WANT TO PARTICIPE TOO !!!!
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 09:38:03 PM »

The software we will use to collect data will be ready in 2 days and after we will start.

I will contact all who are interested in this project and offered us help by this Sunday.

Till that time I still wait members interested in our project and which are ready to help us.

Remember we need 30 members because we have to record 10 000 rounds.

I think till now already 10 members offered us their help but we need up to 30 members.

So we will start even with 10 or 15 members.

Thanks in advance to all.
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 09:43:57 PM »

I want to put here some light related to what you will have to do during this project.

All is simple.

You will have to install and run a software which will record live roulette rounds and data will be sent to our server.

So all is very easy you start the software and it do whole job.

So you can run our software let say when you go to bad or during the day if you don't use your computer.

I think you will be able to find 8 hours per day when you will not use your computer.
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 09:45:37 PM »

Related to members who contacted me and was interested in this project.

I will contact all and will explain what to do once I will receive the software to collect numbers from our software department.

I think this should happen by Sunday.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 01:45:18 AM »

Hy, Admin

Count me in, I´d like to participate!!


I hope that during this test is considered that, although in two different Casino, two launch tests, the results would be identical.

For example:
I start to NOBLE-CASINO on Table 1, at 00:00 Servertime.
Another begins on WILLIAM-HILL?? at 01:00 Servertime.
Both accumulate for 8 hours the numbers that come out, say nearly 345 times the ball falls during this period.
Actually means that my first 43 results are fine but the next 342 are identical to each other.

To get all the numbers of all the tables you will need to plan a precise timetable.
When and who acts on which table.

My proposal would also be to use all the same casino.

NOBLE-CASINO adapts very well, because it has two tables with Grouppier.
One table with compressed air (Slingshot)

These three runs 24 hours, with a minimum of 0.10 and a maximum of 450 units on the even chance.

Then there is also a French table whit la Partage in case of Zero..
This starts at 15:00 till 00:00 Servertime.
Here the minimum is 1 and the maximum 100 units.

This would be most interesting to me that I could dedicate completely.

Good job to all and good health
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2012, 06:26:09 AM »

Yeah sure.
Would love to be involved.
What casino do you intend to use?
When should we fund it?
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2012, 02:12:38 PM »


So you can run our software let say when you go to bad or during the day if you don't use your computer.

I think you will be able to find 8 hours per day when you will not use your computer.


Just to make everything clear, is the software going to take so much of your PC memory/CPU that you cannot do other other tasks meanwhile the software runs in the background?
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2012, 05:20:31 PM »

All instruction related to this project I will post in some days.

Is supposed to have this software by tomorrow but may possible also some delays.

Related to casinos I think doesn't matter because all Playtech casinos use several the same Live Roulette Tables.

For the moment I still need more members.

I think I have already 20 members which want to participate in this project and I think the last 10 are also welcome.

All things will be done by the software so simple you will have to run this software when you will go to bed or when you will not use your computer.

The goal is to collect data from 10 000 rounds and to send them to our servers.

There from this data we will be able to import them in a module and to build a virtual representation of live roulette wheel which finally should work exactly like real live roulette wheel from the casino.

All members who will take part in this project will be involved also on the second stage when we will play.

Before we will talk about the second stage and many other things let simple prepare and work on the first stage.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 02:29:41 AM »

Hello all,

Ok, lets start with a quote from ombrerico

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I want to participate.
Let me clarify what I believe about live roulette.
I believe that the results are identical to a roulette RNG.
I believe the numbers they act according to a universal law of distribution.

I'm in, let us try and see if we discover something new.

Right, we need to get at least one thing clear before we start. That is the false misconception quoted above, that live Roulette & RNG are identical. That is like saying that a BMW M3 car has same ECU fuel map, torque, & BHP as a Fiat Punto!. No no no no!!.

How can gravity & mechanical physics of a Roulette wheel compare to that of a predetermined string of numbers from a Psuedo RNG?. You may as well say a Lada Riva has same aerodynamic effeciency as the latest Ford Mondeo!.

I cannot disclose too much about my background, which has involvement within the casino industry, with respect to certain elements of hardware & software.

If we are to analyise live Roulette wheels, there are a few important variables to consider. The individual dealers signiture is one, but more importantly, it is the inherent wheel design by the manufacturer, that plays a major role in the ball landing characteristics, & ultimately the results. It is like comparing the individual RNG codes at say Magic Box Casino, & City Tower Casino. Would you expect the same results from both?, no, not unless they both shared the same RNG code!. So we choose the same online live casino to actually play, from the casino which uses the same wheel type (manufacturer) where results are obtained from. It is not just the wheel type & manufacturer, but the same casino, due to wear & slight variation in alignment of the individual wheels  used.

I cannot disclose sensitive information here, but different wheel manufactures vary in the ability of ease to define where the ball lands, mainly due to the scatter characteristics produced by the design of the individual wheel manufacturer. Hope this helps somewhat.

We need to investigate this carefully, considering all variables possible, in order to obtain accurate results, which ultimately give reliable winnings to all concerned. Here's to success!  Wink .
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 04:32:14 AM »

Well... I agree and disagree at the same time.
Having played on Live tables.
And played on RNG tables.
You can get the EXACT string of numbers.
So what does that tell you?
It tells you that RNG imop, is the same as Live roulette.
Because you can loose just as much on a live table as you can on a RNG table.
Only difference is that you can loose money a lot faster on RNG than you can on a live table.
Well... as I said. It's just my opinion.
As I am not an expert in these matters.
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