RBS - General Discussion

[Specialist]

Hi All, i'm new here so thought i'd say a quick hello.

My story - well i read about the martingale effect on the internet and decided to give it a go.  It started off really well as within 3 weeks i went from £1000 to £2500.  Then one friday night in a matter of 1hr - it was all gone  - 18 blacks came in, in a row - then followed by 15 later on.  I invested more money but it seems the number consecutive reds or black was getting so regular that doubling up was proving unsucessful.  Anyway after losing £3000 i'm on a mission to get it back or at least some of it.

Some questions - do you guys/gals think online casinos can clock what you are doing and then counteract it by putting in there our sequence to make sure we lose ?  or perhaps i'm being paranoid and just looking for something to blame my loss 

Also - i've been testing some palettes on Casino King - as it's the only one i'm registered with and it seems that practice play and real play is totally different.  In practice play some of the pallettes seem pretty succesfull but when you implement them in real money play then don't seem to work.  I have also noticed that practice money play goes through the bets really quick where as real money can have long pauses between bets as though it's downloading/syncronising  from there website site - have any of you experienced this ?

Anyway whilst typing i was thinking of a possible sequence.

1 - black
2 - black
3 - black
4 - black
5 - black
6 - black - bet £1
7 - black - bet £2
8 - black - bet £4
9 - black - bet £8
10 - black - bet £16
11 - black - bet £32
12 - red - bet £64
13 - red - bet £128
14 - red - bet £256

So after 11 blacks in a row - reverse the bet to the opposite colour but keep on doubling up for a couple of goes.

Obviously you start on .50p or 10p to give your more chances.

Anyway - i'll try this out on Mon and let you know how i get on (let me know if there is a palette that already does this)

Chat soon - and look forward to working with you all in coming up with a great system.

$pecia1ist

[nireaper]

lo $pecia1ist

dont even waste any time using the practice play , not a true rng as some use a cyle of numbers, thats why you see some websites that look as if they have winning systems on practice mode - its because they know what number is coming up next. Some other casinos used an algorythm that was easily broken a couple of years ago for their practice mode so dont base any results you get on practice play.

As for the casinos tryin to beat you its definately possible however if you do a large number of spins with no bets you'll notice alot of patterns you would swear was the casino trying to beat you and yet its not - just the random events of the rng. The casino doesnt need to cheat you - its house edge wins more than enough.

Make sure you test your palette plenty before you play with real money.

[Specialist]

Thanks for the advice nireaper, i'll make sure i give the palette plenty of practice before putting some real money down.

Are there any palettes out there already which have proven to be successful ?

I was also wondering what other online casinos are pretty good for palette testing?

Regards

$pecia1ist

[iamtheone]

Welcome aboard Specialist- never I repeat never use fun mode to test any systems or palettes it is not a true rng. Secondly we have all experience what you have on wagering and losing. I am a firm believer that gaming software has an inteligence or script to interupt the rng when a bet is placed. I base that on two years of online internet gaming and losing a lot of money. MMM and forum members as well as myself are working in different areas to combat that scenerio. I feel confident that in the future we will in fact have an edge over the rng with everyones help here, good luck!

PS there are some palettes already made close to the one you have mentioned above.

[MMM Admin]

On different casinos fun mode is steal acceptable to test your strategy but I will not say the same about the Playtech fun mode.

So use fun mode only to learn hot to use MMMX and here I mean only to test breakpoints and many other MMMX features.

Once this was done and you want to start to develop your own roulette system or even to modify an already existing roulette system or to test you own roulette system then use only real money simulator mode.

[Paolo]

I've a question:
Do you think that without betting ( and I repeat "without betting" ) the sequences of number and colours are the same for both cases? ( FUN mode and REAL MONEY mode )

I'm just asking because I've seen that ( on my system ) with the fun mode the spinning is faster than the real mode.
( I think that on fun mode the casino just doesn't look at the betting ... so it haven't anything to compute )

I'm thinking about using the real money simulator ( without betting ) on fun mode instead the of the real money mode.
Is it a bad idea?

[Specialist]

Thanks "iamtheone", i'll check out the other palettes and give them a whirl.  It would be wrong for them to use inteligent scripts - surely that would go against betting regulations that they are "Supposedly" retricted to.  But as you say hopefully we can figure a way of being one step a head.

I think it's obvious to say that casions know people use this black/red betting technique - you only have to look at google to find 100's of hits relating to it, so no doubt they have something up there sleeve else they would lose loads.

To give us an advantange it would be good if MMMAdmin could code the ability to choose ODD/EVEN - 1-18/19-36 and 1st 3rd 2nd 3rd 3rd 3rd.  I found doing the martingale effect of ODD and Even is pretty successful, but again at times it can go 13-18 spins on even or odd.  and then betting on 2 of the 3rds is also good.  I'll have to post it in the reccomendation forum.

Thanks for the replies.

[Specialist]

Hey Paolo, obviously i don't have proof of this but my feeling is that if you spin in real money and fun mode then the numbers would be different.  Fun mode i think they would just let a random number generator happly run along, but feel/sense that real money mode tries to counteract what we do.

What we need is someone on the inside who can tell us how there systems work    never gonna happen i know.  Or one of us can try to get a job there - like Oceans11 and scope out strategy they use. . . . .  I'm just kidding here folks.

Like the other guys said - it's not worth using fun mode unless you are learning how to use the system.

Lets keep pluging away

[nireaper]

Like myself and iamtheone said fun mode is totally useless for any sort of testing - to prove it do a google for "the worlds best roulette system" , this is a total scam of software but what it does it is able to predict the next number because the fun rng has been cracked. The demo of the software works great as every spin in fun mode it gets right - pity it didnt do the same in real mode.

[iamtheone]

To give us an advantange it would be good if MMMAdmin could code the ability to choose ODD/EVEN - 1-18/19-36 and 1st 3rd 2nd 3rd 3rd 3rd.  I found doing the martingale effect of ODD and Even is pretty successful, but again at times it can go 13-18 spins on even or odd.  and then betting on 2 of the 3rds is also good.  I'll have to post it in the reccomendation forum

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Specialist- I have already suggested this to Kevin and I think he is working on this. I am not sure but I think he will incorporate this in the future because all even proposition bets should be played the same so if it works for r/b it will certainly work for odd/even and high low.

[MMM Admin]

So finally I will say the next.

Use fun mode only to learn how to use MMMX like a roulette tool and to see that our software have auto play feature also how to set it during the game.

Use real money simulator once you started to work on your palette (roulette system) and want to test it properly before to play for real money.

So only real money play with simulator can be considered as usefull investigation of every casino's RNG.

Please use it always before to try your strategy for real money play.

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